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i remembered something this morning that is probably totally obvious to everyone else in the world: "i want you to be happy" is totally different than "i want to make you happy".

i forgot to mention the other day the Stupid Vendor Phrase of the Month: "drill down". when i hear it i just imagine slamming the guy's hand down on the desk and drilling through it.

this morning on the radio they were discussing old people you want to do. i'm totally questionable on their definition of old, but i had a few suggestions i wished i could have called in. like leonard cohen (i think you can safely call him old) and of course harrison ford; susan sarandon, and, well, leonard nimoy. i'm not mentioning the monkees because that goes without saying. well, i'd go for peter and mike, anyways. but aren't they middle aged?

let's call it people at least 25 years older than you. who'd you do?



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Jul. 25th, 2002 03:48 pm (UTC)
Do they have to be currently old, like what about Marilyn Monroe, or Bettie Page?
Jul. 25th, 2002 03:53 pm (UTC)
Well, they are technically old, but probably a bit decayed/skeletal at this point. :P
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Jul. 25th, 2002 04:12 pm (UTC)
Ok, they might not fully fit into the criteria, but considering that I have huge age issues and couldn't see myself dating someone in their mid 30's, they more than qualify as old for me. Not that people in their mid 30's are old or anything.

David Bowie
Chow Yun-Fat

I may add more later as I think of them.
Jul. 25th, 2002 10:03 pm (UTC)
Watch those 'over 30' comments, missy. I might have to drive down and ..uh.. wear shoes in your house!
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Jul. 25th, 2002 04:19 pm (UTC)

I think Peter Tork was born on February 13, 1942. That makes him... er... 60 yrs old! I know Mike is even older than that, by at least a year (I think Mike was born March 31, 1941 or 1939).

(BTW, Peter is going to be playing with Shoe Suede Blues at the Greenbelt Labor Day festival this year, I just read.)

I was freakishly obsessed with the Monkees from about 1985-1991. Peter was my favorite, too. And Mike... I think the wool hat speaks for itself!

Jul. 26th, 2002 10:08 am (UTC)

Well, if you want to sit around and Monkees reminisce someday, call me, because I, too, was FREAKISHLY obsessed with them during that time, and on... I will have to tell you my kissing Peter Tork story. I'll give you a hint: it ends with me calling my dad at 2am after the concert and saying "holy shit dad, i just french kissed someone older than you!!" He was unthrilled.

Also, I'd go see Shoe Suede Blues in a second.
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Jul. 25th, 2002 08:42 pm (UTC)
I know it's sacrilege, but I think Harrison Ford is looking a little rough these days. (Not that he's off the list, though. =) Lesse. Older guys... Robert Redford, he's craggy as all hell now but I still wouldn't kick him out of bed for eating crackers. Also, Steve Martin looks good for a guy who's had gray hair forever. And Bill Murray! I'd do him! You know who else? Fred Ward. He's got a good jaw. And, and...well, Richard Gere. I enjoy his calm Buddhist charm.

Liam Neeson! Anthony Stewart Head!
Oh, wait, they're less than 25 years older than me. Damn. =)
Jul. 25th, 2002 10:22 pm (UTC)
Ooh Liam Neeson and Anthony Stewart Head. However could I forget them?

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Jul. 26th, 2002 10:15 am (UTC)
Re: !!!!!
I had to delete my response to this. I forgot, my dad reads this.

But um, Telf agrees with you about S.C. I personally don't get it. :)
Jul. 26th, 2002 05:20 am (UTC)
Where's my cane? HEY YOU KIDS! GET OFF MY LAWN!!
It's demoralizing. I am struggling to find someone who is 25 years older than myself. I have to go back to someone who was born in 1941 and Susan Sarandon (who I would definitely do) was born in 1946. All of the other women I thought of that I have seen reasonably recently were too young. I finally got a 'hit' on Barbara Eden, although I haven't seen a recent picture of her. Again, when Terry Moore was in Playboy in her 50's she still looked very hot, but I haven't seen a picture in the last .. what, 20 years? (she was born in 1929)

ah, but I did finally think of one. The "So Graham Norton" with Joan Collins on it was on this week. It is only 2 years old at worst and she looked great AND she was born in 1933. There. :)

I'm sorry if I woke anyone up with my joints creaking so loudly. ;)
Jul. 26th, 2002 10:16 am (UTC)
Re: Where's my cane? HEY YOU KIDS! GET OFF MY LAWN!!
Yay! Thank you for contributing chicks. I thought this was going to be a sausage party for a bit. I'm still trying to think of older chicks I would do.

And you're NOT OLD. :D You're still young!
Jul. 26th, 2002 05:25 am (UTC)
For those of us who are at the other end of the spectrum the question should be who "25 years younger" would be a candidate. From this point of view the options are endless...
Jul. 26th, 2002 10:19 am (UTC)
Dad, I know it's you!

And you're playing right into my sociological trap about age issues. I'm trying to fight ageism here! You're not helping!
Jul. 26th, 2002 09:02 am (UTC)
I'm with boots in the bemoaning category, though not quite so far: I'm still looking at 1947, which rules out rene russo by about 7 years. Of course, it'd be a great exscuse to point out double standards between guys and women, but blah blah blah.

Srill, There are a couple of possibilites, but There's a definate oddness to them - I cannot generate the sort of enthusiasm that I heard for, say, Harrison Ford or the like. For many of these women, it is much more the memories of what they have done in the past. That said, the list is:
* Diana Rigg
* Raquel Welch
* Vanessa Redgrave (And it should be noted, Redgrave did a distruebingly good job in Mission: Imposible).
* Faye Dunaway
* Mia Farrow (who makes my cut off, but not boots. Sorry, man!)
* Julie Newmar
* Cher makes the age cut off, but she scares me for entirely unrelated reasons

And just to illustrate numerous people who would make the cut ruled out as being too young:
Carrie Fisher (9 years), rene Russo (7 years), Sigourney Weaver (by 2 years), Karen Allen (4 years), Kim Basinger (6 years), Kate Capshaw (6 years), Angelica Huston (4 years), Meryl Streep (2 Years), and Annette Benning (9 years)

On the whole, this is a really, really weird thing to be thinking about this early in the morning.
Jul. 26th, 2002 10:23 am (UTC)
I think about weird things an awful lot.

I will say that on that radio show, someone called in and said Cher, and the DJs spent 5 entire minutes making gagging noises. I felt bad for poor Cher. But she "believes in life after love" and is "strong enough" so I don't think she needs anyone's pity.

It's odd, like many things I do, but I'm a big Cher fan.

And *thank you* for coming up with lots of hot older women. I'm so in a "fuck this culture of youth" mood lately. And well, I think pointing out the double standard goes without saying too, but I like to point it out in case anyone hasn't noticed.
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Jul. 26th, 2002 01:43 pm (UTC)
Drill down?
What would you prefer vendors to say other than drill down? That seems to fit what is being done very accurately.
Jul. 26th, 2002 03:48 pm (UTC)
Re: Drill down?
I would prefer if they said something like... "focus on" or something like that. I think it has everything to do with the horribly sleazy salesmanly way they say stuff.
Jul. 26th, 2002 03:57 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure if they quite fit the age category, but...
Patti Deutsch, Marcy Lafferty, Alana Hamilton, Elke Sommer, Lilibet Stern.
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