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Challenge: Disprove CM's Thesis

cheetahmaster posted this thesis on music of our generation. And I'm curious to see if it can be disproved. I think it probably can but I don't know exactly how or with what examples. (Note: I don't think you can or should take CM to task directly for the statement if you think it's wrong, let's just call it a statement that's hanging out there to be disproved.)

It's also hard to define greatest, in the sense that do you mean are they our generation's Elvis? Or our generation's Beatles, Led Zeppelin, or Rolling Stones? The latter of whose influence and greatness is probably widely debatable? [edit] And can our generation even have something seminal like that?

I am thinking of greatness in a sense of popularity + musical quality (or percieved musical quality based on critical repsonse) + staying power. And I don't listen to what people would consider "great" bands by those standards, so I have a hard time coming up with alternatives.

Anyways, discuss.



Jul. 7th, 2006 01:49 pm (UTC)
That doesn't get people fired up though, they've already written it as a meme 289574 times on their blog.
Jul. 7th, 2006 02:05 pm (UTC)
This is true. Hmmm.

Well, I know you're really into Genesis. Early Genesis is largely held by music nerds to be a major landmark band in the early 70s punk/new wave movement that also spawned David Bowie. Maybe ask something like, "What bands do you think were the greatest innovators in punk/rock, and which albums or tracks are the most important?" (I would answer THE CLASH here, but someone would come back with the RAMONES, and we would have to DUEL.) Or, "What genres do you think have the most impact on modern culture?" Or, "Which bands had the best lasting impact on modern rock?"

My brain is full of an ever expanding encyclopedia of music. Music is something we Do. I have 6300 tracks on my iPod. From its depths spawns all kinds of madness -- although, right now, as usual, I am listening to my B-sides Nirvana mix.
Jul. 7th, 2006 02:21 pm (UTC)
I wish I had a more encyclopedic music collection or knowledge, but I always find myself shying away from generally recognized things. I went through my indie phase, which concentrated in a sort of riot grrrl place, and now I'm having a prog phase, which is providing me with endless obscure and slightly less obscure bands to listen to, such that I have probably heard 2 Clash songs in the past 12 months, because there simply are not enough hours in the day or dollars in my bank account. I am approaching 6000 tracks on my ipod, and half my CDs aren't even ripped, and it's all so sad because life is too short.

But anyways.

I do have these kinds of discussions all the time with other prog fans on other boards. But the outrageous challenge statement was what I figured would get people in livejournal space talking.

And I have two words for you about impact: King Crimson.
Jul. 7th, 2006 02:43 pm (UTC)
I have no King Crimson on my iPod. I do have King Missile's Way of Salvation album, but somehow, I don't think that's the same thing. :) I also have a healthy dose of Dead Milkmen.

There's some serious punk, techno, and electronica here in the artist list, which flashes my tastes. And it's a wide and very healthy selection of techno and electronica music. I likey the oontz oontz oontz, but that it no way precludes listening to everything else on God's green earth. Iggy Popp, right now, is also very, very, very popular in the household.

We have the same problem with ripping CDs. I estimate that 60% of our CDs are ripped and in iTunes. But I suspect that the 40% missing might very well be crap.

ect does mix album exchanges with people to get more music passed around, so every once in a while we get a hot infusion of new stuff. Every mix album exchange thus far has spawned 2-3 album purchases. Physically exchanging music with other people has, thus far, been the absolutely best way that I've found to get people to hear and think about new songs/groups. They're trivial to produce in iTunes -- I sent off a techno mix disc with 8 songs that had to have a certain sound to them -- and you can put together art and liner notes and everything. You can't do cross fading or slip queuing or anything that is hawt DJ l33tness, but you can produce a mix album.

Jul. 7th, 2006 02:59 pm (UTC)
Hey if ect would like to do mix exchanges, I am all over that! I have a long and varied history of mix exchanges. I might even have a tag for that although I think they are all just under the LJ tag "music". Oh, except I've only back-tagged through 2003. Heh.
Jul. 7th, 2006 03:18 pm (UTC)
I'm very fond of mix disc exchanges right now because mix discs are something that is not baby-dependent and something I can pick at while at work.

If I understand the game right, you have a bunch of people in a pool that all play. Someone picks a topic ('water', 'flying', etc.) and everyone gets assigned random mix exchange partners. Everyone puts together a mix disc and sends out discs in the mail -- or, you know, drive the whole 1/2 of mile to your house. Wash! Repeat!
Jul. 9th, 2006 06:53 am (UTC)
OK, my topic is 'crazy'. I may have a head start... :D I'll make you one if you make me one?
Jul. 11th, 2006 01:26 am (UTC)
Woah. I am way behind from being on vacation!

I'll make a tag called crazy for music, and some mix disc goodness shall be had.
Jul. 11th, 2006 02:11 am (UTC)
sweet - let me know when you're ready and we'll exchange.