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whinge ahoy, move on at will.

I had a good weekend. Even though during most of saturday night I had a splitting headache. And had no costume.

Today I caught the new cat spraying (peeing? I'm honestly not that sure of the difference) the box spring which is downstairs waiting to be taken away. It looks like he'd already done it several times. I am deeply upset about this; not only because there is now a cat pee smell because I can't get rid of a freaking box spring tonight, but because this might mean there's something wrong with him, that he's sick or something somehow. So, I've been totally freaking out this evening.

Up til tonight everything seemed amazingly smooth and the kitties were getting along great. :(

- saturday afternoon melting pot excursion with softball team - mmmmmm.
- got lots and lots of trick or treaters.
- board book went out today without any hitches that i know of (*fingers crossed*)
- exciting book club about stealth bombers this evening. is this really going to be holiday party #4???

past that everything is so fucking out of control i just don't know what's going on anymore. i've been extra snappy at jack and the nuvaring ordeal, well, i just think it's causing physical and mental issues. the last time i updated my to-do list notebook was a month ago. it makes me want to burst into tears every time i think about it. i basically did that when i saw the cat peeing on the box spring. i needed this to go smoothly at least in that way. i could deal with them fighting. but now every time he's out of my sight i'm going to be thinking about what object he is probably peeing on. tomorrow i will contact the SPCA and the vet and his foster person for insight. aigh. also may have to break down and buy... the dreaded... the hated... clay litter. GOD I HATE THAT SHIT.

enough bitching. i have much to be grateful for. i shall go meditate on that.



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Nov. 2nd, 2004 04:46 am (UTC)
Cats pee on things downward. They spray up against stuff (i.e. back up to it, tail straight up and "shivering" and spray out, not down).

I would:
- take to the vet to rule out UTI
- discuss if Buspar may be good (it's anti-anxiety drugs, works well for cat behavior problems, we used it on Pig, it's great)
- also try confining the cat to one room/area with litter box (laundry room, bathroom, etc) that has no carpet. Cats want to pee in a place they can dig, so if the box is the only option other than hard floor, that's what they go for.

If you find the cat peeing on the hard floor, in the tub, on plastic, it's probably a UTI - the cooling sensation of peeing on something cold makes them feel better.

Good luck!
Nov. 2nd, 2004 04:52 am (UTC)
In that case, we definately have a spray situation. There was not so much of the tail shimmying, but the backing up and upward thing was definitely in evidence. He was just at the vet on friday, and has been relatively chill all over the house since then, but could be depressed or something. Or it could just be dominance things happening with him moving into a house with a cat already...

thanks for the long answer. I sure hope we can get to the bottom of this; I really just hoped with an aduly neutered cat this kind of thing wouldn't happen. Naive of me perhaps! I do wonder if we are giving him enough attention. Argh. :(
Nov. 2nd, 2004 04:53 am (UTC)
Shit, Kim--I'd be mad as hell if one of our cats started randomly spraying stuff (which sometimes happens, but more on that in a minute). You have every right to be upset about it!

That said, spraying and peeing are the same thing, it's just that the latter is a way that males mark their territory. Is Hero neutered (I forgot whether you've mentioned that already, I'm sorry)? Boy kitties that aren't are more likely to spray than those who are. My guess is that he's just tagging his new turf--not that this makes it better, of course, but it might be a one-time only deal, at least. Whenever we move, Max has a tendency to want to spray stuff, but it always goes away after he acclimates. As long as your kitty isn't relieving himself outside the box (leaving puddles of pee on horizontal surfaces like the floor or couch or bed as opposed to backing up and peeing on vertical surfaces), you shouldn't need to get new litter.

I would definitely call the SPCA and his foster person and see what they have to say about it, though. If it's a habit of his, you need to know about it. But! I am keeping my fingers crossed for you that this is not normal behavior for him and is just the result of being in a new place with new people and a new cat. If the people you bought your house from had pets, he may be smelling what's left of their scent and reacting to that, too. Anyway. Let us know what happens. Thinking of you during this stressful time.
Nov. 2nd, 2004 04:55 am (UTC)
Oops--didn't see the above comment before I posted, obviously. :)
Nov. 2nd, 2004 05:03 am (UTC)
Yeah - the guy before us had a dog and a cat. Nicolas has, thankfully, traditionally never ever been a sprayer. Hence my lack of knowledge.

I guess I should be glad he tagged the box spring we were going to ditch anyways... but like Jack said, he could have gone for anything. He did manage to get a wool rug that I am so not sure how we're going to deal with. I have sprayed the shit out of everything with nature's miracle, but so far I can still smell pee. WAHHHH.

thank you
Nov. 2nd, 2004 05:26 am (UTC)
but like Jack said, he could have gone for anything.

He could've, that's true--but he didn't, and hopefully he'll be satisfied with the work he's already accomplished and won't feel the need to do more, the (really cute) little turd.

If there's a lot of pee on the rug, it might take a few days before the Nature's Miracle starts to work, but if it doesn't help, can you get it professionally cleaned? That'd take care of it, I bet.

Good luck!! And you're welcome :)
Nov. 2nd, 2004 12:14 pm (UTC)
let's see, nature's miracle (which you've already tried); you might also try oxy-clean. that shit is GOOD.

also, if you don't already have a black light, get one -- it's worth having as long as you have pets. as you probably know, urine fluoresces under black light, so that'll help you to see if you got everything. even missing a couple inches worth of pee can keep the smell around. you might want to do a quick once-over on any carpets left over from the previous owners and just make sure there are no "leftovers" from the dog that might make things worse.

other than that, i second all the above comments -- i will be keeping my fingers crossed that it's just hero acclimating and that it won't happen again. *hugs* i'm sorry you're so stressed, hon. things'll work out eventually, although that may not help much now.
Nov. 2nd, 2004 05:30 pm (UTC)
I second the oxy-clean or try woolite oxy carpet cleaner.
Nov. 3rd, 2004 02:52 am (UTC)
Black light - BRILLIANT. I shall run out to Spencer's ASAP! hehe. Seriously!

thanks so much for the kind words. :)
Nov. 3rd, 2004 04:50 am (UTC)
yes! get the tube kind; they usually have a long cord, so you can wave 'em around.

you're more than welcome. things really do seem to be shaping up for you guys from the outside, but it's a lot of stress to deal with from the inside. you'll be okay. lots of deep breaths and hot baths, or something. hopefully hero will live up to his name. >;)
Nov. 3rd, 2004 02:33 pm (UTC)
I have a spare black light if you'd like to borrow it
Nov. 3rd, 2004 03:02 pm (UTC)
heh... can i borrow it like, tonight?
Nov. 2nd, 2004 05:44 pm (UTC)
Boy kitties that aren't are more likely to spray than those who are.

*nod* But unfortunately, once they start it can become a habit which later neutering won't affect. :(

It's also usually a stress thing, not too surprising for a new kitty (though I totally agree to check for a UTI as well). Other people have better advice, I'm sure, but I can tell you that a black light and Anti-Icky-Poo will help you find and clean up (respectively) old and new urine stains.

Also, have a good cry, wrap yourself in something wonderfully soft, and sip hot tea. *hugs*
Nov. 2nd, 2004 05:46 pm (UTC)
Er, the "respectively" meant black light to help find, Anti-Icky-Poo to clean up. Not black light for old stains and AIP for new ones. Language is hard, let's go shopping.
Nov. 3rd, 2004 02:53 am (UTC)
Maybe the cat is picking up on my stress levels! Doh!

Thanks for the advice :D
Nov. 2nd, 2004 05:55 am (UTC)
Vinegar can work wonders on cat pee smell, douse the spot and let it dry naturally...
Nov. 3rd, 2004 02:54 am (UTC)
ahhh yes, i had forgotten about the vinegar. indeed.
Nov. 2nd, 2004 06:26 am (UTC)
My Minners pisses (only on my stuff, though) when he's mad or nervous.
I think I may take kazoogrrl's advice and talk to my vet about Buspar.

I don't really have any good advice, since I have a pee-er, too. Just offering commiseration, I guess.
Nov. 2nd, 2004 04:27 pm (UTC)
That stuff saved your house!
Nov. 2nd, 2004 02:39 pm (UTC)
Luckily our cats never pee on non-washable stuff (their favorite substitute litterbox is dirty laundry), but male cats' spraying is a variant of the territorialism that gets ours fighting and hissing. We luuurve the Feliway "Comfort Zone" - it's like a pheromone air freshener (it doesn't freshen the air at all) that makes our cats feel safe and loved - and NOT kill each other or vindictively piss on things. It's kindof expensive ($40 a pop, and you need one in any room the cat spends a lot of time in), but well worth it.
Nov. 3rd, 2004 02:57 am (UTC)
Ooooh I will look into this Feliway!!! Thank you!!
Nov. 2nd, 2004 05:34 pm (UTC)
He may not like the covered litterbox. Tux doesn't much care for it and will pee in protest. Henry has decided he doesn't like peeing in the stinky litterbox. He prefers the potted plants or my fresh clean laundry. *sigh* I may have to get Downy scented kitty litter.
Nov. 3rd, 2004 02:35 pm (UTC)
I haven't tried it myself, but you may want to check out Feliway - it's supposed to help these sorts of situations: http://www.feliway.com/
Nov. 3rd, 2004 03:02 pm (UTC)
it's on the list of things to try for sure! :D and my company even carries it.
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