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Does this sound like Victoriana or what? You know, just when you think that the world is progressing, you have to stop and say, no, people will always do stupid, vain, self-destructive shit and buy into a system that disables them, no matter how much it hurts. Fantastic.

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squeegibo
Dec. 9th, 2003 12:06 pm (UTC)
I don't understand why they don't make heels in reasonable sizes. I know that doesn't fix all the problems with wearing heels, but if there are so many women who want them but can't find the right size, it seems like there's a large market for larger heels.
judithiscariot
Dec. 9th, 2003 12:31 pm (UTC)
yeah, see, thats what im saying here.

why doesnt jimmy choo or steve madden or whoever made shoes in wide sizes? i love the way a lot of those shoes look, but i refuse to wear them because i wear an 8W and i cannot get my foot into them without pulling a cinderella's stepsister routine. i do not enjoy foot torture.

not saying that women who get freaky foot surgery are blameless, but if shoe manufacturers recognized that there's a market for wider but still fashionable shoes, less women would be cutting off their toes. right.

i have the same problem with clothes made for teh fatties -- why designers think we all want tunics, elastic waists, applique, stretch fabric, bla bla bla etc is totally beyond me. sweet jesus. i am FAT, not TACKY.
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larksdream
Dec. 9th, 2003 12:08 pm (UTC)
I don't know if this makes me more sad or furious. :-C Especially:

Take your average woman and give her heels instead of flats, and she'll suddenly get whistles on the street.

Right. Because that's a major goal in my life, is to get whistles on the street. *boggle*

I like my body. It doesn't look like the models in women's magazines (or in porn magazines either, for that matter). I'm kind of short. My skin likes to rampage. My feet don't fit into fashionable shoes. And my breasts don't require a wide-angle lens to get them in the picture. But I like it. It's a good body, and pleases me for the most part, and it works very well for what I want it to do. Why isn't that good enough? Why does everybody have to look exactly the same? Why are even otherwise intelligent guys so poisoned by the media that they buy into this crap?

Some days I really despair for this society. I'm going to go hide in bed now. :-C
judithiscariot
Dec. 9th, 2003 01:44 pm (UTC)
men like chicks in high heels because high heels:

1. make legs look longer
2. make calves look more muscular
3. make ass look bigger

these make women seem more healthy and fertile, which triggers a biochemical reaction in men which makes them whistle and leer.

also it makes women seem more vulnerable, what with the mincing, tottering gait that heels force, and that reinforces the women weak/men strong caveman instinct.

nobody's poisoned by anything, unless you count testosterone as a poison.

fuck intelligence, bring me some 9 Wests.
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nixieq
Dec. 9th, 2003 12:14 pm (UTC)
why is it such a pattern in our culture to maim ourselves to try and achieve impossible standards of "beauty" (and this is becoming more and more relevant for men, too), rather than to change the standards or create more realistic fashions? personally, i find people who are wearing well-fitting, comfortable clothing (and shoes) to be MUCH more attractive than people who force themselves into clothes that don't fit them, don't suit them, and oftentimes cause pain, simply because somebody else told them that that's what they ought to wear. they're also more attractive because they obviously have minds of their own. *sigh*
nixieq
Dec. 9th, 2003 12:21 pm (UTC)
also, it sounds more like a rehash of foot-binding than victoriana. blech!
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ubet_cha
Dec. 9th, 2003 12:32 pm (UTC)
think that the world is progressing
Its always peaks & valleys isn't it?

Gross.
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eeedge
Dec. 9th, 2003 01:38 pm (UTC)
Re: Only in America...
Hey, I think that the loss of that 6th finger won't hurt anyone...
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captain_boots
Dec. 9th, 2003 12:43 pm (UTC)
The story sure seems to start out with a sane operation of a bunion, but WOW does it get into some freaky stuff. I just can't comprehend doing that. Did they also just not manage to say that the bunion was caused by bad shoes or something? I thought bunions were something you'd want to have removed no matter what kind of shoe you wear.

Of course, this line made me laugh and groan at the same time:
. . . Dr. Levine explains that she is "simply fulfilling a need, a need to wear stylish shoes."

Justification by claiming a 'want' is a 'need.'
nixieq
Dec. 9th, 2003 12:46 pm (UTC)
i believe bunions are, in fact, caused by wearing bad shoes. and bunion operations frequently don't work.
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leliel
Dec. 9th, 2003 12:55 pm (UTC)
But the truly important thing is..
If I forward this article to my boss, think they'd let me go barefoot at work? ; )

Well, I can dream!
   -Leliel

(current shoe analysis: my work boots are comfy and have a 3/4" thick rubber heel, but the style ran so large I had to get a size 4 from the kids section to fit me. 0_o)
snidegrrl
Dec. 9th, 2003 02:38 pm (UTC)
Re: But the truly important thing is..
you have to wear some kind of heels to work?!?!!?! that sounds like a lawsuit to me :P
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examorata
Dec. 9th, 2003 02:07 pm (UTC)
So women need fancy shoes to feel good about themselves? Why, I had no idea, let me plop down more than I make in a month on a pair at once!

People. are idiots.

No one NEEDS high heels. I think the world as a whole would frankly be happier without the goddamn things. If I ever found a pair I liked that didn't kill me, I'd get 'em. Right now I own one pair. One. And I can't wear them to work because they show my toes. Which are JUST the right length, thankyou very much.
snidegrrl
Dec. 9th, 2003 02:36 pm (UTC)
Hand in hand with that is that men don't NEED high heels to be turned on, more turned on, or whatever.

Were women walking around on tippy-toes for the thousands of years before they were invented?!
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angela_la_la
Dec. 9th, 2003 09:14 pm (UTC)
You know, I've read all the comments on here, and I agree with most of what's been said, especially with regards to the mental states of people who slavishly subscribe to trends.

BUT. I disagree that high heels automatically equate to weakness. Physically, yeah, you can't go any faster than a trot, and jumping down stairs is Right Out. If a date requires me to run very fast away, my shoes are probably the least of my problems in that case. But a lot of women, me included, feel more powerful when dressed in high femme drag. Now, this is only in the realm of sexual power, understand, but that bleeds over to many many things in life. I find high heels vaguely threatening, and when I wear them I got to take on that attribute. On a scale of "tough" footwear, with sneakers at the lowest point, I'd rank what I call "bitchy" heels right up there with steel-toed boots.

Then again, maybe that's because I've spent too much time with dominatrices and too little time watching Sex In The City. Fashion has entirely different meanings in different realms.
auros
Dec. 10th, 2003 11:24 am (UTC)
Well, as far as being threatening, there is the fact that a 110 lb woman in spike heels can do more damage to your foot than a 200 lb man in flat-soled shoes. *g*
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