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A fluffy poll for my friends to take:

I can't freaking figure out why the poll creator isn't working for me. Let's try this again from scratch.

When I was growing up, even when things kind of sucked my mom would not get my clothes anywhere but the nice department store. I mean, sure she'd like to find a deal and get a sixty-dollar shirt for twenty, but when that didn't happen she usually wanted to go whole hog. I appreciated her generosity, or at the least I do appreciate it in retrospect, but I realize that her feelings on "you get what you pay for" have come to me in full force. As much as I strive and strain to be a class warrior in several directions, I have to admit that I'm a big fat fucking snob sometimes. I like the nicer things in life. I like a classy restaurant that has 1/4 the food on 2 times the plate. Who doesn't, when it comes down to it? In that regard, here's a dumb poll:

Poll #85492 The Snob Factor Poll

If I were buying fine jewelry for my significant other, I'd buy it at no less than:

Hot Topic
Kay's/Zales etc.
Jewelry is a stupid thing to buy someone

If my significant other were to give me jewelry, I'd accept it from no less than:

Hot Topic
Kay's/Zales etc.
Material goods have no meaning to me in today's world of war and strife.

When I say "coach bag", what does it mean to you?

A bag to keep balls in before the game.
Hundreds of dollars, leather, *drool*
I have no idea, weirdo.

Fill in the blank: _______ are a girls' best friend.

This is where I land on the snob scale:

Mean: 5.24 Median: 5 Std. Dev 2.52

What's the most ridiculously indulgent, snobby thing you've purchased, for you or others?



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Dec. 20th, 2002 06:23 am (UTC)
About four or five years ago I was learning how to be terribly snobby from this girl's mother in St. Louis. It was sinfully fun for a while but I have to admit I wasn't very good at it.

Fortunately, the girl's mother ended up hating me and the dreadful affair ended.

*whew* Dodged that bullet.
Dec. 20th, 2002 08:07 am (UTC)
That's the trick... if you're not very good at it (I only am when I get up the energy, which is not often) then it's best to get in the groove you're good at, whether that be shabby chic or more rustic or cheap mod or whatever the hell it is you want to do.

Once I gave a tongue lashing to a boy who said he was going to get me a precious stone at WalMart. I don't quite regret it, but I did create a MONSTER out of him, now that he knows the difference. After that he liked everything "high class" even though he was in college and I was hardly getting by. Oops.
Dec. 20th, 2002 08:37 am (UTC)
If no one but an appraiser cant tell the difference between a $9 ring from Walmart and a $1000 one from a jeweler - what's the point in spending the the extra $991.
It still looks nice and it's the thought that counts.
Dec. 20th, 2002 07:38 pm (UTC)
Because the thing is...you can tell the difference. Its not just about the quality of the diamond. It is also about unique and individual design. A diamond ring from walmart may sport and actual diamond, but the style of the ring will tend to fall into a boring uninspiring design. A ring from tiffanys or from a fine jewelry designer will have an intersting style to it that is unique and beautiful.

You really DO get what you pay for much of the time.
Dec. 21st, 2002 04:17 am (UTC)
You're absolutely right; my mom worked at the fine Jewelry counter at a department store for years when I was a kid; it always amazed me that a woman who broke her back standing around in heels for 8 hours a night (back then she was required to wear heels for the job) did not develop a contempt for such snobbery, but that is not the lot of my mother. I wish she'd post here and confirm this for me but the fact is that you *can* spot a wal mart ring from a ring from a nicer place most of the time because the people who make rings for these fancy places know that the difference can be spotted and don't want to get a reputation as a low class establishment. now i will admit that they have come a long way with teh cubic zirconias, but i will also note that those things have gotten DAMN expensive.

it's the same in the case of a coach bag; a regular $40 leather bag from the department store won't last or continue to look as elegant for years and years as a coach bag will, imho.
Dec. 21st, 2002 10:47 am (UTC)
as long as they're sparkley i'm happy.
Dec. 21st, 2002 05:25 pm (UTC)
The best
While I am merely a dad type I can testify that you can spot the difference in stones and settings across the room. I've been well trained. The other point I'd like to make is that wanting the best is perfectly OK but flaunting something is snobbery. There is a huge difference.
Dec. 21st, 2002 04:21 am (UTC)
oh, and totally despite what I said below it *is* the thought that counts. and if a guy (or girl) got me a ring from the vending machine at wal mart i'd be grateful.
Dec. 20th, 2002 08:20 am (UTC)
You know, I'm not really good at buying jewelry for people at all. But, I don't usually get it at chain stores at all, just little places with unusual stuff. And I don't know the last time I bought jewelry for a boy.
Dec. 21st, 2002 04:20 am (UTC)
Oh, I would totally buy jewelry at the Crystal Fox and stuff like that. As gifts for friends and even girlfriends if I had them. (I haven't tended to go out with any boys that liked Jewelry. there goes any goth cred I *might* have had) But I dream of having the nice stuff, like most people. :)
Dec. 20th, 2002 10:27 am (UTC)

You know, when I was in undergraduate, I was taking Psych 101 under this really cool prof. He said that there is a bit of psychology involved in the whole snobbery thing. When it comes to jewelry, gold isn't really all that expensive. Precious stones you can buy wholesale for cheap. It would overall be EXTREMELY easy to undercut the prices places like Tiffany's, etc. sell their jewelry for, and retain the "quality" of the jewelry (grade of gold, grade of stone, etc). But for some reason, people think its worth more if they pay more for it.

He said basically people are paying for the box with the name on it, and the feeling that they're getting something really special because they paid a lot for it.

Then again, he could have been blowing out of his @$$. That was all in reference to a private jeweler opening up a shop, though, so it was believeable for me.

Anyhow, I'm sure Wal-mart is going to have the crappy metal, crappy stones, though -- just because they're Wal-mart so everyone's expectations of them is kind of low to begin with. Even though its crap, they're still going to make a good profit. They'd probably charge $100 for a ring that cost $8-$10 to make by some child laborer that makes $0.25 a day.

But for me, the whole conversation is kind of pointless. Most diamonds go to drive the greed and corporate slavery in South Africa, anyway -- unless you can get one of the rare Canadian diamonds. ;)
Dec. 21st, 2002 04:24 am (UTC)
Oh, I agree that there is a psychology to it. There is a sociology to it, too. In some cases, it's quality, and in some cases, it is just a design. It depends.

You make a fine point about diamonds, though.

And... there are canadian diamonds? I had no idea.
Dec. 21st, 2002 07:02 am (UTC)
That's cool. :)

Yeah, there's a huge diamond mine in northern Canada - not as big as the one in S. Africa, though. Its kind of a recent discovery (within the past 10 years). The diamonds are supposed to be really high quality, and best of all produced from the sweat of decently-paid Canadians. :)
Dec. 21st, 2002 05:27 pm (UTC)
Currently our largest supplier is Russia. Hardly a place crawling with "corporate greed"
Dec. 21st, 2002 12:36 am (UTC)

Useless baubles the one and all. DOWN WITH DA BEERS.

Dec. 21st, 2002 10:51 am (UTC)
I must make two statements at this time.

1) I selected the Coach bag answer that I did because I know what they are. However, I am vehemently opposed to them on principle because paying $400 on a wallet is ridiculous to me.

2) jwiv is a jerk.

That is all.
Dec. 21st, 2002 05:32 pm (UTC)
Mentoslad is not a jerk. He just can't spell "Da Beers" is "De Beers" In case y'all haven't kept up with the times African miners are paid the same as white miners since the fall of apartied. Of course some people don't want to know.
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