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Things that have been on my mind in a very heavy way over the past few days:
1. All the concerted homophobic/violent efforts going on seemingly everywhere... started with hearing about PBS, then about the assault in Montreal, then the &*^%$ VA legislature... I'm flummoxed and feel powerless. I thought, somehow, progress was being made over the past ten years since I opened my own mind about these issues.
2. Guantanamo. Do I have to say anything further? (here and here.) This is a fucking nightmare. Of my country's creation.
3. The president of Harvard's comments and the ensuing backlash.

Here's all I've been able to come up with to mitigate my depression:
1. Dinner with tartedelune. What a wonderful meeting! I ate faux pork because what's life without experimentation? I didn't hate it but next time perhaps I'll try the faux beef. I think we could have filled the space of time with words even more fully, and stayed on into the night. It was awesome.
2. Spontaneous phone call to salami_salome. I love the way she lets me squish my foot in the door just enough to allow our verbal torrent through and let outrage match outrage and the waves meet and dissipate and reassurance is what washes back to meet us. (I hope. :))
3. Casting on 33 stitches for my neighbor S. who is clearly a saint, and who I clearly owe. Now to you know, actually knit the thing.
4. Reading Wally Lamb's Couldn't Keep It To Myself.
5. Self-medication: Beer and video games.

I had a long dream last night about my ex C and a peaceful meeting.

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snidegrrl
Jan. 28th, 2005 08:25 pm (UTC)
1 - I hope you're right. I hope reasonable people stop being willling to let things slide.

2 - Wordy McWord.

3 - Unfortunately, I feel like lots of people hear this stuff and think that justifies all sorts of sexist behavior. Hopefully not.

Thanks man. Good to hear what you have to say. :)
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cheetahmaster
Jan. 29th, 2005 04:31 pm (UTC)
I can get behind any resolution that involved Tina Turner and buttless chaps.
ubet_cha
Jan. 28th, 2005 07:09 pm (UTC)
I think, even with all the bigotry, we see in the press it is progress simply because it is being talked about in the press. I remember in the 80's, hearing second/third hand, of people getting beaten to a pulp just for being gay in the Navy. Actually, I heard worse. Now that this type of vilonce is acknowledged and rightfully demonized I don't think it is accepted or even tolerated anymore. Its a slow process, but it is proceeding.
snidegrrl
Jan. 28th, 2005 08:18 pm (UTC)
When PBS won't let lesbian couples on a show, I think the bigotry is officially getting more institutionalized. :( That's why I can't let this go.
ubet_cha
Jan. 28th, 2005 08:34 pm (UTC)
Please don't misunderstand me. I do not want you to let this go. My point was this kind of thing ( or worse) has been going on for decades without comment. Now its is brought to the light of day so we can do something about it.

PS - I'll concede that I may be a 'half full glass " person on this...
snidegrrl
Jan. 28th, 2005 08:44 pm (UTC)
I used to be a glass half full person too. :(
vexingvixon
Jan. 28th, 2005 07:27 pm (UTC)
Some Good News...
Here is a little good news to let you know SOME positive changes are underway in some places. I know you don't notice this because you don't live here, but its huge:

The newly Democrat-majority Colorado legislature started the process of trying to pass a law making it illegal to discriminate in the workplace based on sexual preference.

Boulder, Denver and a few other cities have locally passed these laws, but now they have started the process of passing this for the entire state! Yay!! Take that, "Focus on the Family"!
snidegrrl
Jan. 28th, 2005 07:51 pm (UTC)
Re: Some Good News...
Awesome!!! Go CO!!!

Thanks for the good word.
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snidegrrl
Jan. 28th, 2005 07:50 pm (UTC)
Yep.
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snidegrrl
Jan. 28th, 2005 08:42 pm (UTC)
My problem with what he said is that the information about the study was offered without enough of the social context included as a factor. I feel pretty strongly that examining biological factors without social factors (and not in a "well they have kids so they don't work as much, see?" kind of way) is useless. To some extent the same is true in the other direction but you have to be careful, and what I read didn't come under the umbrella of careful.

And the whole story about his daughter and "mommy truck/daddy truck"? Academially useless, and had no place in the discussion.

I'd offer more explanation but can't find a stupid link to the stupid speech.
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snidegrrl
Jan. 28th, 2005 10:57 pm (UTC)
I have to wonder about this. I am a heavy proponent of nurture and extremely interested in seeing people not ignore sexist socialization. I am wary of the dicey new universe (but also fascinated by it, want to become a neuroscientist, etc). I would like to read some of the literature that talks about how many studies have sexist assumptions built into them hand in hand with the research itself...

Yeah, basically I read alot of different articles with various quotes about what he said.
cheetahmaster
Jan. 29th, 2005 01:31 pm (UTC)
Had the president been there to say "this is my arguement, and here's the facts to back it up" I wouldn't have had a complaint with it. However, he said he was there to 'stir debate,' and hey, if you want to start up a flame war, the internet proves there's people who are willing to accomodate you. If you're going to bring up such an incindiary topic, don't get upset when people are incensed.
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snidegrrl
Jan. 29th, 2005 04:28 pm (UTC)
Re: ahahahahaa
are you seriously calling him a dumb schmuck, or are you guys comfortable enough with each other that that's not an insult?
cheetahmaster
Jan. 29th, 2005 04:29 pm (UTC)
Re: ahahahahaa
We're kosher, I got the joke.
Re: ahahahahaa - snidegrrl - Jan. 29th, 2005 04:30 pm (UTC) - Expand
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cheetahmaster
Jan. 29th, 2005 04:30 pm (UTC)
Re: ahahahahaa
Man, I only wish I had done that on purpose.

If this is gonna be a proper internet flame war then, let me mention Hitler, abortion, and make a car metaphor. BAM.
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rackletang
Jan. 28th, 2005 07:29 pm (UTC)
I think we should hang out or something.
snidegrrl
Jan. 28th, 2005 08:25 pm (UTC)
I feel like I ought to deny myself hanging out time until I get something, anything, on my to-do list done. :(
rackletang
Jan. 28th, 2005 08:35 pm (UTC)
Fair enough. Just figured it might either distract us or give us a chance to vent... :) Whenever, though. Whenever.
salami_salome
Jan. 28th, 2005 09:52 pm (UTC)
I'm totally feeling your "oceanic" metaphor.

There was yet another NPR discussion of women in science on the radio as I was driving home today, and OMG I wanted to kill this one panelist, but I can tell you about that later.

=)
tartedelune
Jan. 29th, 2005 04:33 am (UTC)
I had such a great time at dinner! I haven't had such a free-flowing and easy conversation in a long time. I would love to do it again sometime.

I'm going to ignore the causes of your depression though, because they all depress me too...
snidegrrl
Feb. 1st, 2005 02:05 am (UTC)
Yay! I had the same feeling. I feel like perhaps there were tons of things left unsaid!
tartedelune
Feb. 1st, 2005 03:14 am (UTC)
I feel like perhaps there were tons of things left unsaid!

Yes, in the best of ways. =)
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