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Feb. 19th, 2004

Curves report: Well, frankly, I think it's really awesome. The only thing vaguely annoying about it are some of the questions they are when you sign up, for example, "do you have a dress size goal?". To be clear, they ask this in a very non-threatening kind of way, and seem to back off if you say no, you just want to be more healthy. But that they tie things to dress size is kind of annoying in theory. Anyhoo, despite that the atmosphere is really welcoming and inclusive. Women of every shape and size and walk of life seem to be in there working out alongside each other. The machines are not complicated, and easy to learn how to use. The staff is friendly and while encouraging, not annoyingly perky. So, I'm in for a year. On in between days I can DDR or uh, be lazy.

Steady dribbles of work to do here, which is making me feel like I'm even vaguely pulling my weight. Today I made a philosophical decision: I will never let Computer Game dictate my schedule. Tonight I will grill a steak on the ol' Foreman and try to remember I'm not bitter about working on fridays and not being able to go to the club, I have been many times and will go again, Nation is not a priority for me, I don't want to spend the money, I can see people in other contexts, and going only encourages me to be vain and/or self-loathing anyways. And you know what? If I really wanted to go more than I wanted to sleep, I could make it happen. Another week.

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norabombay
Feb. 19th, 2004 08:44 am (UTC)
I'm actually going to Nation tomorrow night for the first time, for the J.C. concert, as I am a sad Nsync fangirl.

Any tips?
snidegrrl
Feb. 19th, 2004 08:49 am (UTC)
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Hrm... I have like, no experience of the venue as anything other than Alchemy, the goth-industrial thursday night thing. Some of my other friends might have advice, who used to go for Buzz and the like...
bizarrojack
Feb. 19th, 2004 11:43 pm (UTC)
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I met J.C. when I was in high school, because apparently, he lived in Bowie for a while. He seemed quite personable, although I barely talked to him. I can't even remember what we talked about. At the time he was already moderately famous as a Mickey Mouse club person (which, oddly enough, Bowie High had two of).
bizarrojack
Feb. 19th, 2004 11:53 pm (UTC)
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oh yeah, tips.. well there's a decent parking lot that charges $10 on thursdays, but who even knows about other events. I don't. I don't like to park more than one block away, if looking for a spot on the street. You'll probably be fine if you do. 2nd choice is right on the south capitol (the "access road", i guess you could call it) because it's well lit and I dont think people usually realize you can park there.

As far as I know, they do not ever have seating.
Consider bringing ear plugs, because it's so loud you'll still hear it with them in.
If you drop any food, don't pick it up.
For the club events, they frisk everyone coming in, but I don't think they'd do that for this sort of event. Even still you might want to leave your stuff in the car (knives, guns, pens ;) )

I only know of a couple homeless (or apparently homeless) guys who hang out within a block of the place when there are high traffic events, and you might see them if you park on the street. One of whom is starvin' marvin who is pretty nice, and he is a 30-something black man with a bit of a beard, and a baseball cap.
There's another guy with a pale birthmark on his face who will give a different name every time you see him and he's kind of annoying.
If you're more than one block out there will be more people milling about though.
castironskillet
Feb. 19th, 2004 09:13 am (UTC)
You know, working on Fridays is pretty common... ;)
snidegrrl
Feb. 19th, 2004 09:30 am (UTC)
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Yeah, but at 7am? :-/ If I had to be at work at 9am I'd totally consider toughing it out.
ubet_cha
Feb. 19th, 2004 09:20 am (UTC)
My ex-wife goes to curves, and although I don't have the greatest personal opinion of her I do think that its a great idea. She's a little intimidated by male occupied gyms and since joining curves has done very well.

Good Luck with it.

going only encourages me to be vain and/or self-loathing anyways

Funny and very true, at least from my end. I'm always busting on myself.
snidegrrl
Feb. 19th, 2004 09:31 am (UTC)
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It's not the males that bother me so much... it's the hard sell, the lack of friendly atmosphere, the lack of cooperativeness. The unwillingness for employees to help someone unfamiliar with the facilities. This applies to both genders.
panzer_faust
Feb. 19th, 2004 09:27 am (UTC)
"Today I made a philosophical decision: I will never let Computer Game dictate my schedule."

You are a tougher than I if you can pull that off.
snidegrrl
Feb. 19th, 2004 09:32 am (UTC)
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I did it with Television!
larksdream
Feb. 19th, 2004 09:48 am (UTC)
Good for you! I love going to the gym but I use the campus one, where there's no pressure, no sign-up, and no employees of any kind. *g*

Re: dress size thing... actually, I think that's infinitely better than asking for a weight goal. A lot of people obsess over weight when they'd be better off obsessing over body size and body mass composition. Though of couse I think it's best to just try not to obsess at all. :)
snidegrrl
Feb. 19th, 2004 09:58 am (UTC)
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Oh, I didn't mention, but they ask for a weight too. They weigh you periodically and compare. The person who did my intake, as it were, was pretty solicitous about this however, and said sometimes numbers don't mean anything because muscle weighs more than fat and it's all about where you feel comfortable blah blah blah.
subliminaltea
Feb. 19th, 2004 10:02 am (UTC)
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Well... that is kinda true. Body-fat index seems like a better measure. Do they check that? Sometimes you can initially go up in weight if you're building up lots of muscle.
snidegrrl
Feb. 19th, 2004 10:04 am (UTC)
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They do check the BMI but they don't treat it like the bible. The woman who spoke with me said specifically that she thought the BMI was unrealistic. They also checked my body fat percentage with a weird little machine.
peregrin8
Feb. 19th, 2004 10:17 am (UTC)
Re: BMI vs, body fat thing
BMI is actually just a weight/height formula; it's no better at telling fat from muscle than just weight is. (Based on BMI, people like Governor Ahnold are obese.) Whatever the weird little machine came up with is probably a more useful number if you wanted one.

... At least they asked if there *was* a size you wanted, instead of assuming there is one? Anyway, sounds saner than most gyms to me!
rob_donoghue
Feb. 19th, 2004 11:23 am (UTC)
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You actually _can_ measure BMI, and it's an excellent index.

Unfortunately, doing it right generally involves sophisticated measuring equipment and complete immersionin water (they use bouyancy to do th emath), so all the charts and such deserve skepticism. tahts aid, if you're of average build (i.e. not a weightlifter) it's at least a moderately useful tool.
professorbooty
Feb. 20th, 2004 07:46 am (UTC)
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Don't you also have to completely empty your lungs while immersed in water? I don't know about you, but I have an interlock in my brain that is meant to prevent me from doing that.
rob_donoghue
Feb. 20th, 2004 09:48 am (UTC)
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You'd be surprised - it's not a hard trick to learn. I use it to cure my hiccups, actually. :)

But it's never going to be 100%, no, just due to the physical limits of how much you can squeeze your lungs. So they've got about a zillion layers of math and measurements to try to compenstae for that, which renders it all the more non-trivial.
professorbooty
Feb. 20th, 2004 10:01 am (UTC)
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When I get hiccups, I stand on my head and swallow something. It works every time. Luckily, I only get hiccups about once every four years. Usually I just have one or two hics (often from spicy food, for some reason) and then it goes away.
oontzgrrl
Feb. 19th, 2004 09:50 am (UTC)
Well honestly I wouldn't be too annoyed with the dress size thing. They are trying to get a feel for what you are after, what type of workout you want, and since all women are different they need to nail it down with certain questions. If you DID have a dress size goal they would prolly proceed to examine whether that goal was healthy and reachable and then put you on a more aorobics intensive workout for fat burning.

I'm glad you like the gym. Good luck with it. And the offer is still open for you to crash at my place if you wanted to go out tonight.
snidegrrl
Feb. 19th, 2004 09:59 am (UTC)
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I wasn't at all annoyed about the dress size thing - I just figured I knew people who wouldn't want to be blindsided by a question like that if they decided to sign up. :)

They pretty much don't have a variety of workout. Everyone does the same amount of machines and aerobic joggery as everyone else.
rob_donoghue
Feb. 19th, 2004 11:27 am (UTC)
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I'd note thatthe dress size question is a fairly reasonabel one for the same reasons BMI is a poor index. Having yardsticks is important, and a dress size is somethign concrete, measuable and arguably easier to pin down than an ideal weight.

That's not to say that there aren't peopel who have bad reasons for focusing on it as a goal, but those problems don't come from the goal.

I mean, hell, one of my biggest goals is to get down to XXL so i can start buying clothes from places I like. I don't feel liek too much a slave to the body Image/Fashion industry for it. :)
examorata
Feb. 19th, 2004 11:38 am (UTC)
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A dress size isn't really concrete at all, since what I wear in one given brand of dress might have no relation at all to what I wear in another brand of dress. They don't have anything to do with something you can actually measure, like mens' pants. If I wear a size "20" dress it doesn't really /mean/ anything. It's not 20 of anything they're measuring.

That said, it really isn't an unreasonable goal, no. I'd rather aim to fit in a favorite pair of jeans again than get caught up over a number. =)
rob_donoghue
Feb. 19th, 2004 11:55 am (UTC)
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Point. I'd forgotten thatthe numbering od women's sizes is Just Plain Crazy
larksdream
Feb. 19th, 2004 01:26 pm (UTC)
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It's *insane*. I have fit into anything from a size 2 (rarely) to a size 8 (also rarely). And the proportions are never right for me anyway. Arg! Where is my personal tailor when I need one??
zenthia
Feb. 19th, 2004 09:56 am (UTC)
I definitely would be annoyed about the dress size thing. I think there are hugely unrealistic ideas about what size a woman "should" wear, despite our diverse range of bone sizes and hip configurations! Not to mention that someone like me will never fit into off the rack women's pants because of the way my hips are tall. Oh, and not to mention that a 12 is not always a 12. Sometimes it's a 16 and sometimes it's an 8. Fuck you, dress size!!!

Anyway, I'm glad you want to be more healthy, because that is something we should all aim towards! Yay for Kim! Today is a stationary bike day. I read some terrible trash novel and even after 45 minutes I still want to keep going to see what happens in my book. ;)
snidegrrl
Feb. 19th, 2004 10:02 am (UTC)
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I didn't feel like going into a diatribe on it with the lady. :) I just told her I figured dress sizes were always different so she could toss any old number down there she wanted. She didn't push. How often do I wear dresses, what, once a year or something???
professorbooty
Feb. 20th, 2004 07:47 am (UTC)
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R U A NUDITS?
snidegrrl
Feb. 20th, 2004 08:10 am (UTC)
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i wish.
examorata
Feb. 19th, 2004 11:50 am (UTC)
Also, I want to ask, apropos of nothing, where everyone is getting these new trendy cartoon self-portrait icons?

I am asking, rather than searching, because I am lazy!
examorata
Feb. 19th, 2004 12:10 pm (UTC)
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En Espanol! Gracias! =)
examorata
Feb. 19th, 2004 12:21 pm (UTC)
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Not enough glasses choice! Bah!
professorbooty
Feb. 20th, 2004 07:49 am (UTC)
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Also, not enough personalisation choices for those of us with no facial hair and a shaved head. Ooh... earrings. Do not oppress my nose, you power-mad bastards!
spleenless
Feb. 19th, 2004 03:08 pm (UTC)
Are you going to the one on Rte. 1? I've been thinking of trying it if I can get my finances in order. I have a blood pressure goal, not a dress size goal....
snidegrrl
Feb. 19th, 2004 03:55 pm (UTC)
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That's the one. Just North of Main. I had to pay $75 as an initial layout, then $39 a month, which does seem steep, but compared to most gyms isn't that bad I guess? She didn't take my blood pressure, but "most recent blood pressure" was on one of the forms as something you could fill out if you wanted to.
bitchiekittie
Feb. 19th, 2004 08:07 pm (UTC)
I really hope you enjoy it - I joined the gym about two months ago, and I really, really, REALLY love it. I think it's great that yours has a warm atmosphere, too - it will likely make it a place you look forward to going to
badassfaerie
Feb. 20th, 2004 01:54 pm (UTC)
my mom does curves, and she seemed to really like it.

I dunno... I think I'd totally be more interested in an all women's gym... but they do have their spiel, and whatever products they sell- the diet stuff, that I don't think is cool, they seem to wait until you'vebeen there for a little while before they try and con you into that.

But I'm really a "leave me the hell alone and let me do my thing in a nice safe positive energy enviornment" kinda gal. hence, I'm not a member of any gym currently...
snidegrrl
Feb. 24th, 2004 07:45 am (UTC)
Yeah, they haven't tried to sell me anything yet. I noticed yesterday that the stuff was around... the book, the powders, whatever, but no one has even mentioned them to me yet.

I actually like the fact that everyone smiles encouragingly at you and says hello - I actually didn't like the "leave me the hell alone" part of other gyms. I need handholding. :)
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