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I just don't understand.

What do you do when someone you met through livejournal, developed a rapport with, and really liked, suddenly leaves a weird message and then a week later deletes their journal? I mean, this is upsetting me. I only have an email address from when we shared some private emails and that's not working. I don't understand. I guess if the person wanted to contact me back they would, unless all their accounts had been hacked or something, but even then my email address is right there. *sigh* I thought I was being unreasonable being upset about the people who dropped me off their friends list with no explanation but this is worse. Yes, I care about LJ that much, it's really important to me. Is there anything wrong with that? (Addendum: I consider myself a pretty good judge of character and I don't think I choose to befriend people who are floofy and delete their journal willy-nilly. Hence my taking it so seriously.) (Addendum again: I don't mean to imply that I only befriend people who are of a certain level of non-floofyness. I just didn't word that very well I'm just saying this doesn't seem like an "oh well" kind of situation. ARGH.)

Other than that I just had an outage at work that I handled and made a bunch of decisions about and fixed and I am all proud of myself and crap. If I continue feeling this ill I guess I won't go to the burg on friday. Not to mention no one seems to be able to tell me if there's actually a WSC show at the Solar Haus or not. So fuck it, dude.

Also, on the poll I posted, I was hoping it would prompt some hypnosis stories. Does anyone have hypnosis stories they want to share? Maybe I should have been more wordy about it.

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edamame
Jan. 12th, 2003 11:52 pm (UTC)
hypnosis
I've only been hypnotized twice and both times it was for a comedy hypnosis show. First time was some no-name who came to my college; second time was at the Improv in DC when Flip Orley was there. Both times were very dream-like experiences, you remember everything that happens but your perception of time and your actions is a bit skewed. I remember only feeling like about 20 minutes had passed when really it was more like 2 hours. As far as the actions go, I remember that one of my directions was to speak in a deep southern drawl that was almost incomprehensible. I remember that I was just speaking the way I normally do but later my friend asked me where in the hell I'd come up with such a dead-on accent.

I looked at http://www.dcimprov.com/coming.html and see that Flip Orley is making the rounds to the DC Improv again in late March, I highly recommend his show, it's fun even if you don't get hypnotized on stage.

Even better though, Lewis Black will be at the Improv at the end of January...D'oh! I would give my eye teeth to see that.

Good luck finding your friend...it's scary when people just dissapear like that.
snidegrrl
Jan. 13th, 2003 12:21 am (UTC)
Re: hypnosis
I find that to be really amazing! I have never been able to conceive of someone actually screwing with my conciousness or my concious control of my actions while I was perfectly awake and not under the influence of any drug. It's also kind of scary. But I trust you so obviously the whole thing wasn't faked. :)

I have always hoped that someone could ferret out memories from my childhood that I can't access with hypnosis.
edamame
Jan. 13th, 2003 02:33 am (UTC)
Re: hypnosis
Hypnosis is not about someone screwing with your consciousness or controlling your actions; rather, it puts you in a very relaxed, suggestive state where you are still in control of your faculties. In the example I used earlier, Flip Orley suggested that I speak in a very southern accent, which I did without even realizing it. But he couldn't have suggested that I strip onstage or go for a walk in front of a mac truck because those are not things I ever would have been comfortable doing normally.

Hypnosis has proven effective for people with repressed memories because they are able to let mental and emotional barriers down more easily in such a relaxed state. But noone can make you do something you don't want to do while under hypnosis; that is a myth. Rather, using suggestion, a practiced therapist can use suggestion to help you explore aspects of your past that you wouldn't normally visit. If you are really blocked, i don't think that even being hypnotized would help.

Also, some people are more prone to be hypnotized than others. Don't use this against me, but I am very easily hypnotized! I didn't go up onstage at first at either comedy/hypnotist show I went to; I got hypnotized from the audience and then called up onstage after others who couldn't be hypnotized were let go. I don't really know why some people can be hypnotized easily and others can't, but I feel a google search coming on. If I find out anything interesting, I'll let you know. :)
rubinpdf
Jan. 13th, 2003 11:27 am (UTC)
Re: hypnosis
Most "repressed memories" discovered under hypnosis turn out to be false memories. That's why during the late 80's/early 90's there was a large explosion proported early childhood abuse. Through leading questions asked of their hypnotised clients to find if there was abuse, theropists often ended up creating the memory.

Also, at some point I read that it is possible to hypnotize someone to do something they wouldn't ordinarily do. As I recall, it involved a series of suggestions that the person would be willing to do - each leading a person closer to what they previous would not do. However, I assume it could not be done in one session. More likely, it would take many months or possible years to accomplish.



snidegrrl
Jan. 13th, 2003 11:22 pm (UTC)
Re: hypnosis
Somehow I doubt that that is the sole reason that there was (maybe) a ramping up of reports of early child abuse... I think that increased awareness of child abuse as a social problem probably led more people to come forward about it when perhaps before they could not have, or felt afraid to. I'm not saying that what you're describing hasn't happened, no doubt it probably has. It just sounds more like a nighttime television soap opera plot than a common occurence, to me.

Also, now THAT would make an interesting study, if people could study that kind of thing. The long-term hypnosis thing. It could be just a quicker form of conditioning or something. Of course, most of the books about it are total hooey... I'm frankly shocked at the amount of people out there who believe that the government are conducting illicit mind-control experiments on a helpless populace. Shocked, but still amused. :)
snidegrrl
Jan. 13th, 2003 11:16 pm (UTC)
Re: hypnosis
I don't think I have repressed memories or anything. I just forget stuff really, really easily. And from what little I have read about memory, the "imprint" of my experiences may still be "stored" in my brain, but I've lost the pathway to access it or something. Not that hypnosis can help with that or anything, but I like to think that I can somehow restore those pathways. I hate that I pretty much don't have any concrete memories prior to about 12, and that age just keeps getting higher and higher. I know alot of people hold on to memories from far back in their experience, but I can't seem to do that.

That's interesting that the person doing the show tried to hypnotize some people and didn't. I guess from people's stories and answers, hypnosis is a real phenomenon, but exactly the mechanics of it are something I'll have to research.
cheetahmaster
Jan. 13th, 2003 06:27 am (UTC)
Re: hypnosis
Ditto on both the Flip Orley (and the Lewis Black, for that reason.) It's a really amusing show. I doubt you're going to find many people here with experiences with anything other than the comedy hypnosis.
examorata
Jan. 13th, 2003 06:55 am (UTC)
Re: hypnosis
i wonder what tickets cost for Lewis Black...hrm.
summer_queen
Jan. 13th, 2003 05:24 am (UTC)
My experience....
For me, hypnosis was not a relaxing state, in the least. I was awake and fully aware I was being instructed to do things by someone *other* than me the entire time I was under. Admittedly, it was all mild stuff, like raising a particular arm when directed, and the like. But while I had been more than willing to go under (and damn did I go under immediately -- very suggestible), I fought it every step of the way once I was under. Very, *very* stressful. I didn't like giving up my control. I tried like mad to stop my arm from raising, and couldn't, and got very flustered. After I'd come out, and relaxed some, the hypnotist attempted to put me back under, to discuss with my hypnotized self why I'd fought so hard. But he couldn't get me fully under again. And I doubt anyone else could at this point, I'd fight 'em off tooth and nail to avoid that kind of vulnerability.
snidegrrl
Jan. 13th, 2003 11:25 pm (UTC)
Re: My experience....
That is really, really amazing to me, and creepy. Of course, now I am curious how suggestible I am. Not to mention curious (as stated above) about the mechanics of it. (Psychological/Neurological).
swartzdk
Jan. 13th, 2003 05:40 am (UTC)
Net aquaintences
Sorry about the disapearing net friend. Remember that fully half the people who are "net" people are trying to be someone they are not. If they are real friends they just don't disapear they make sure you know where they went. Those that just flat disapear probably never really existed in the first place.
snidegrrl
Jan. 13th, 2003 11:26 pm (UTC)
Re: Net aquaintences
That's what I was trying to say... I don't think this person was some fake or something. If that were true I'd have to become alot more cynical than I already am.
cerisefleur
Jan. 13th, 2003 07:55 am (UTC)
Ditto to what swartzdk said. You are a very kind and considerate person for worrying but I would wait to hear from that person. You've done what you could by sending and email to the address you were given. I would leave it for now. Maybe that person doesn't feel as you do about livejournaling. *shrug* Just my opinion(s). :)
lacifer666
Jan. 13th, 2003 07:56 am (UTC)
hypnosis
I know about 3 people that have gone under hypnosis, and another (my sis, Lady K) who has actually hypnotized others. K succeeded in hypnotizing our cousin, Brandee, and one of our other sisters. It was kind of neat to watch.

The other person I know was hypnotized to stop smoking. Believe it or not, but it worked for about 5 yrs. The hypnotist said the next cigarette the dude had would make him really sick. After the session, dude didn't feel like smoking any more and completely stopped - he went from a pack a day to none!

Well, after 5 yrs of not smoking, one day he decided he was going to try it - to see if the hypnotist was full of poo. As soon as he smoked, he started throwing up and got really ill. But, after that inital reaction, he started smoking regularly again, though.
snidegrrl
Jan. 13th, 2003 11:28 pm (UTC)
Re: hypnosis
If that were the case, I bet someone could condition themselves not to smoke. I mean, what is the difference between making youself think that smoking will make you throw up and someone else doing it? Food for thought.
painkiller
Jan. 13th, 2003 09:51 am (UTC)
It always bothers me when someone on my friends list deletes their journal. I always think I had something to do with it directly.

When I was hypnotized, it was just got a comedy show. But it still felt really good afterwards. It's more of less like sleeping; very relaxing and you lose the concept of time. He asked me how long I thought I was under and I said 15 minutes. It was over 2 hours.

Plus, contrary to rumor, you can't get "stuck" in hypnosis. If you were to get hypnotized and then everybody leaves the room, you'd just fall asleep and wake up 7-8 hours later like normal.
snidegrrl
Jan. 13th, 2003 11:30 pm (UTC)
In this case her last post was, "this is wrong. all, all wrong". So I felt like something bad happened, either to make her really depressed and not want to post anymore, or I don't know. It's just weird.
rubinpdf
Jan. 13th, 2003 11:47 am (UTC)
Does anyone have hypnosis stories they want to share?

Not much of a story really... but last summer I wanted to try to lose some weight and exercise more. I did a search of the net (I believe through google) and found a few free hypnosis mp3s.

I listened to the one that would make you desire to exercise more a couple of times... and I'm not quite willing to say that it work - But for about a week afterwards I did ride my bike to work. However, On nice days, I was riding my bike to work before I listen to the file - I think it was just a coincidence that there was a string of nice days happened after I listened.
Unfortanately, I stopped listening to the mp3 (it was about 20 minutes long, and I found it hard to have the time), so it's difficult to know for sure. Perhaps if I had found a hypnosis mp3 that reinforced the desire to listen to hynosis mp3s...

Be warned - as I recall, the net search for hypnosis did bring up some fetish sites. Though I suspose a search for almost anything might do the same.
snidegrrl
Jan. 13th, 2003 11:33 pm (UTC)
Mostly what I found through the net seemed like scheisters trying to sell something, a book or their hypnosis therapy. Strangely, for things I take really seriously, I find that word of mouth is my most reliable (as well as far more fun) source (because I like talking to people). If I really wanted to find someone to hypnotize me I'd just ask some close friends who I felt knew people who were into that kind of thing.

But, it's not so much that I want to be hypnotized, more that I want to understand how it works. And that will probably take books, not the internet.
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